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by omni
Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:30 pm
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: Guan Dao project
Replies: 14
Views: 16630

Re: Guan Dao project

Thanks Phil!
There are some sawmills in our state - will get onto them!
by omni
Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:23 am
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: Guan Dao project
Replies: 14
Views: 16630

Re: Guan Dao project

I hope we haven't bitten off more than we can chew... I appreciate your comments on distal taper especially. We were originally planning to keep it linear, but having it thicker at the forte is a good idea, though it unfortunately means more grinding. We are planning to make at least three weapons, ...
by omni
Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:24 am
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: Guan Dao project
Replies: 14
Views: 16630

Re: Guan Dao project

That's some valuable info, Phil. Thank you!

Unfortunately we have no chance of handling any yanyuedao good, bad, or ugly.
The more measurements we can get, the better.

We are planning on cutting and shaping out of steel plate.
by omni
Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:43 am
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: Guan Dao project
Replies: 14
Views: 16630

Re: Guan Dao project

Thanks Phil, interesting points. I hadn't considered that the variations in blade shape might correspond to differences in fighting style, but that seems obvious in retrospect. I've been searching under both 'guan dao' (also kwan/kuan) and 'yanyue dao', as well as the relevant Chinese characters. I ...
by omni
Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:27 pm
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: Guan Dao project
Replies: 14
Views: 16630

Re: Guan Dao project

Thank heaven for the internet : ) I did a bit more searching and came across another photo of the third blade in that group, alongside a tape-measure: http://gb.cri.cn/mmsource/images/2010/04/24/20/317640851068658528.jpg It appears to be a little over 27 inches long. Hopefully that will be enough fo...
by omni
Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:39 pm
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: Guan Dao project
Replies: 14
Views: 16630

Re: Guan Dao project

Thanks for the info Scott. I hope there are some Chinese collectors at least preserving these weapons! I came across another nice picture for future reference: http://twgzaw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pISrriiG6YuHZtG-S65eiaL6wuGe63G14ka0K-Y0t77Zy9EtwSdWmnNZ45Z-bzC5u9lqWdyI35lt-LrbkWnjing/chineseGiantBl...
by omni
Tue May 31, 2011 12:36 am
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: Guan Dao project
Replies: 14
Views: 16630

Guan Dao project

Greetings all. Since the glorious conclusion of the 'Yue Fei Dao project', my friends and I are planning to embark on another adventure, this time in hopes of creating a workable Guan Dao or Yan Yue Dao. Surprisingly, information on this weapon seems quite scarce. The best example I have found so fa...
by omni
Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:06 pm
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: yue fei dao project
Replies: 44
Views: 44783

Re: yue fei dao project

Hi Scott and Peter, The distinction you make between historian and practitioner is very helpful, and makes a lot of sense. They really are quite separate fields of study. I had mistakenly assumed that the folk names should be discarded in favour of the historically accurate ones. :) Thank you both f...
by omni
Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:43 pm
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: yue fei dao project
Replies: 44
Views: 44783

Re: yue fei dao project

The terms are confusing, but I'm also confused about your basis for defining the terms. For example, as a simple observer, if I see a two handed saber labeled 'Zhanmadao', and then I see a short polearm also labeled 'Zhanmadao', I would just accept that 'zhanmadao' can refer to different things, and...
by omni
Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:26 pm
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: yue fei dao project
Replies: 44
Views: 44783

Re: yue fei dao project

I've seen the Zhanmadao that look like big sabres, but I've also seen swords with a near 1:1 ration, labeled (perhaps incorrectly) a zhanmadao, as in the video I posted earlier. Here's another one with the same type of sword: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMYuU-ar-MU I remember someone asking me wh...
by omni
Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:10 pm
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: yue fei dao project
Replies: 44
Views: 44783

Re: yue fei dao project

That's interesting, Peter.
I did some searching for 虎牙刀 images, but could not find much at all.
The closest 'modern' equivalent I have found is labeled a zhanmadao.
Perhaps this more descriptive/functional label survived because of the confusion in terminology?
by omni
Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:25 pm
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: yue fei dao project
Replies: 44
Views: 44783

Re: yue fei dao project

Hi Scott, thanks for posting the pics. Were the original owners/dealers quite conscious of its identity as a Yue Fei Dao, rather than just another kind of DaDao? The length is roughly the same as mine. Interesting to see one with a curved tip. Are you aware of any particular martial arts traditions ...
by omni
Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:26 pm
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: yue fei dao project
Replies: 44
Views: 44783

Re: yue fei dao project

Aha, I was thinking "1930's.....?" for a minute or two before I got it. :| I read somewhere that it's possible to relieve such stress by heating the blade up and letting it cool very slowly... The thickness issue could be true in my case also - it is quite thick a blade. Good luck with yours, sounds...
by omni
Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:39 pm
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: yue fei dao project
Replies: 44
Views: 44783

Re: yue fei dao project

If you do find something, I'll be glad to hear it. Most of what I read at the time was just saying to try bending it back in a vice or clamp during temper. More interesting was the suggestion that warping may be caused by uneven hammering or grinding on the blade, (or by stress from forging, whateve...
by omni
Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:59 am
Forum: Chinese Historical Arms
Topic: yue fei dao project
Replies: 44
Views: 44783

Re: yue fei dao project

Hi Peter, thanks for replying. According to the heat-treaters, it was originally quenched at 840C and tests results at that point were 62-63HRC. Then they tempered it at 200C, which brought it down to 60HRC. It was warped somewhere along the way, so they tempered it again and 'put something on it' t...